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OBOC presents: THE INDUSTRY IN BIPOC - How Racism Impacts Storytelling and Imagery - Shared screen with speaker view
Lisa V
20:01
Good morning everyone, starting 2 minutes
Wyatt COrbin
20:44
Morning
Krystian Gage
20:54
Morning
Esmeralda Montes
21:13
Morning
Marianna Vashchilenko
21:36
Morning
Clay Gediman
21:53
Good morning!
Michelle Martinez
22:10
Good morning!
Brandon Easton
30:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pDE4VX_9Kk&t=222s
Lisa V
39:19
Meeting is being recorded
Krystian Gage
40:52
What would you claim are positive progressives in cinema today?
Michael Habata
41:05
If we were interested in watching Birth of A Nation now for historic/cultural reasons, where would we be able to see it?
Ruta W.
43:44
@Michael Birthings of A Nation is streaming on Amazon
Lisa V
44:14
ty Ruta
Ruta W.
44:36
@Lisa you are welcome! :)
Ruta W.
46:23
https://www.amazon.com/Birth-Nation-Nate-Parker/dp/B01LWQALCZ
Michael Habata
47:17
That appears to be the 2016 version of the movie.
Michael Habata
47:31
Not the original movie.
Michael Habata
47:58
So where can we see the original movie by D.W. Griffith?
Ruta W.
48:02
Thank you for clarifying @Brandon
Maria bates
48:03
Thanks for the clarification.
Maria bates
48:17
Can we get it at our library?
lauren saslow
49:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yU8rRQKoA&vl=en
Clay Gediman
49:50
Birth of a Nation youtube https://youtu.be/N_yU8rRQKoA
Lisa V
50:17
TY to my lovely librarians for the YouTube link to watch the movie
Krystian Gage
50:46
Thank goodness in that regard for youtube in general
Lisa V
50:47
Sorry… meant OUR lovely librarians
Catherine Lybarger
51:44
Thank you Lisa
Krystian Gage
54:46
A big step I believe for Asians in cinema was Crazy Rich Asians
Loralyn Frederick
55:46
This is a real eye opener...
Clay Gediman
56:00
There's a blowup in social media every time there's a change in ethnicity or gender of a super hero. it's silly.
Jason Torres
57:47
Who owns BET?
Joy Hubbard
01:00:03
Viacom owns: BET, CMT, MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, TV Land, Logo TV, Paramount Network, Pop — and VIACOM CBS own them...
Jason Torres
01:00:13
I had heard that Michael B. Jordan was considered for the roll of Superman.
Joy Hubbard
01:01:10
A merge between CBS and Viacom,, which occurred in 2019 I believe
Joy Hubbard
01:01:54
Copy.
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:03:10
I used to work at Disney and we called it "Mouseschwitz" and we were all afraid to really express how we felt about that place. It was not a place where diversity was prevalent or even considered.
Michael Habata
01:07:36
Have Latinos and Asians done better in representation as industry writers than African Americans?
Clay Gediman
01:08:15
Do you think the new Oscar guidelines for diversity will help?
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:09:41
why do you think the progress is so slow?
Marquette Parker
01:09:56
you’re absolutely correct on this!
Joy Hubbard
01:10:13
Couldn’t agree more.
lauren saslow
01:11:05
Slayer, megadeath
Clay Gediman
01:11:08
death metal analogy is good.
Jason Torres
01:11:09
Is there Colorism in Hollwood?
Kenny May
01:11:18
YES!!!!
Loralyn Frederick
01:11:39
True!
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:12:03
it is total ignorance
Kenny May
01:12:32
I was in the industry back in the 80's. What was done was a crime!
Jason Torres
01:12:35
Trap is not Hip Hop.
Krystian Gage
01:12:48
Metallica
Jason Torres
01:13:28
The Digital Underground
Loralyn Frederick
01:13:48
The Digital Underground*
Charles Johnson
01:14:46
Is reality TV creating a negative image of Black women or exposure of a reality we need to deal with as a community?
Marquette Parker
01:15:45
nothing about reality TV is reality. it’s scripted foolishness
Kenny May
01:15:55
It's "Unscripted" TV
Jason Torres
01:16:13
Watch the show ¨Unreal¨its a trip!!!
Marquette Parker
01:16:30
the scenarios are definitely scripted. the reaction is bad acting.
Jason Torres
01:17:54
I was on Judge Judy years ago.... Completely biased and scripted.
key miles
01:18:48
not really...
Krystian Gage
01:22:25
Representation without progression
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:22:39
progress with becoming more diverse but you just answered it.
Jason Torres
01:22:40
Have you seen examples of Colorism in Hollywood?
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:22:44
we need to greenlight black projects
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:24:10
I mean there is not a shortage of black projects -- maybe if the studios get flooded and maybe there need to be agencies with agents of color! so many deals are package deals so we need to get people of color better representation
Joy Hubbard
01:24:15
The problem tends to come after we greenlight—funding is usually significantly shorter.
Joy Hubbard
01:24:22
lower*
Maria bates
01:25:00
Yes, this is the case in the Philippines, too
Dale Fields (they/them/their)
01:25:45
Is crowdfunding like Kickstarter an effective way of getting BIPOC stories out?
Loralyn Frederick
01:25:45
So true Maria, It still exists :(
Marquette Parker
01:26:02
I applaud this conversation!!! you are hitting the nail on the head with so many points!!!! White executives have no room for black people in THIER world. you feel it when you walk into their space.
Jason Torres
01:26:22
Uncle
key miles
01:26:23
so true!!
Jason Torres
01:27:14
Aunt Viv was originally Dark, then replaced with a Lighter skinned woman.
Lisa V
01:27:35
@Jason Yup!
Brandon Easton
01:27:54
CHECK THIS BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Kind-People-Inside-Americas/dp/0060984384
Joy Hubbard
01:28:27
Yes Jason! I remember that too.
Joy Hubbard
01:28:43
I wonder if it came down to color or skill set
Joy Hubbard
01:28:55
Guess we will truly never know that reasoning
Krystian Gage
01:30:51
Jordan Peele's Us horror film had lots of symbolism that could be interpreted in many relevant ways
Marquette Parker
01:32:54
yes!! and black creators and influencers being offered less money for doing the same sometimes breed than other race folks.
Joy Hubbard
01:33:06
100%
Marquette Parker
01:33:25
*correction* same thing, sometimes better
Clay Gediman
01:33:59
Lovecraft Country been a great take considering the author.
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:36:53
Spike Lee made "Do the Right Thing" for $35,000
Joy Hubbard
01:37:10
I shoot music videos for just that! WILD when you put it like that
Jason Torres
01:37:14
The history of the Black Panther is something in its own. In the comics he was first like a drug dealer and pimp, then marvel changed his bio to that of an actual Black Panther revolutionary type, then most recently and for the screen an African Prince turned King.
Krystian Gage
01:37:36
Build yourself up first. No one can make a Black Panther as their first credit
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:38:55
Joy Hubbard you seem super cool and you are beautiful
Joy Hubbard
01:39:21
Thank you— Pierce ALUMMMNNN! Whoop!
Krystian Gage
01:39:48
Contribution as a big factor first
Joseph Roberson
01:40:30
I have a student meeting to attend, be blessed all.
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:40:41
youre right
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:40:45
its shes gotta have it
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:40:47
my baed
Joy Hubbard
01:40:53
6.5 Mil for do the right thing
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:41:12
I just remember thinking it was amazing movie for such a crazy low budget
lauren saslow
01:41:12
Watch Get Out here: https://digitalcampus.swankmp.net/piercecollege336742/watch/479263B4E3B6BDBD?referrer=direct
Joy Hubbard
01:41:21
She's Gotta Have It- $175,000
Krystian Gage
01:41:44
lol
Maria bates
01:42:00
Thanks, Lauren. I didn't realize we had "Get Out" or "Do the Right Thing."
lauren saslow
01:42:44
Do the Right thing link: https://digitalcampus.swankmp.net/piercecollege336742/watch/3831E212C82B1647?referrer=direct
Joy Hubbard
01:43:17
I always say “You gotta PAY TO PLAY”
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:43:19
We did "A Bronx Tale" for so little money. The completion bond company was on the set every single day after a couple of months. We all think DeNiro put the whole thing on his Amex
Joy Hubbard
01:43:37
People ask me to produce all the time.. but yes— value system is huge
Nicholas Sumandra
01:47:39
What part of Blacksploitation movies in the 60s and 70s play in the continuation of prejudice or the progress towards a more progressive industry?
lauren saslow
01:48:50
Bravo has fired some of their talent for racist tweets
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:49:47
I was Chazz's assistant.,It was really hard to work on we were supposed to wrap in October and didn't wrap until almost March of the following year
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:50:18
It was a one man play where he played all the characters
Joy Hubbard
01:51:20
Damnn Bill— why you gotta do that to us!
Jason Torres
01:51:40
Lets do it again!
Joy Hubbard
01:51:52
Let’s chime in on him.. cause during the time he was during women— that was the norm.. (while not ok- but something many people, especially his peers would do and brag about)
Joy Hubbard
01:52:05
Songs-- and so on would project this
Jason Torres
01:52:09
Cooley High
Joy Hubbard
01:53:23
exactly
Joy Hubbard
01:53:31
I agree with him
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:53:49
OMG I just realized that although A Bronx Tale was about racial disparity, we had a crew of about 150 and there was only like one black person in the location department. And maybe one driver. But that is it. That is so wrong on every level
Jason Torres
01:53:57
Same here
Ruta W.
01:54:06
@Brandon I agree with 100%!!!!!
Joy Hubbard
01:54:32
Mendelson— exactly the same thing I was saying about Black Panther
Kenny May
01:54:36
I've had white people tell me I don't seem black. All they knew of black people is what they've seen on tv.
Joy Hubbard
01:54:37
Too often this happens
Joy Hubbard
01:55:01
I’ve worked on many sets that the creatives have began to make a point to say we must hire diversely
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:55:56
I am so sorry but i'm on a computer without a mic
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:56:05
I didn't think about it at the time
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:56:11
It never even occurred to me
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:57:01
I honestly didn't think about it until this very moment. That is just wrong and it makes me feel like the rest of the idiots who don't include ALL people when hiring. It was just something I didn't think about
L Alexandra Mendelson
01:58:50
I think I didn't think about it because I don't go around thinking, "oh hes black or oh shes white" I just don't take it into consideration. But it must be taken into consideration and people need to be held accountable. I want to walk onto a set and say why are there no black people working here???!!!! We have to call people out even at the most basic level.
Brandon Easton
01:59:15
Imagery of Black women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2teqoyPe3TU
Brandon Easton
01:59:49
Black male roles: https://youtu.be/7aHEh7OzddQ
Jason Torres
02:00:22
I remember working on the set of Mtv´ś first motion picture ¨the Wood¨ and the only black people I saw on set were the actors, and thats only because they were depicting the community in Inglewood during the mid 80´s.
Brandon Easton
02:00:42
History of Black Stereotypes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEy9ZKf5NOo
Dale Fields (they/them/their)
02:02:41
Is it "Fast Color"?
Brandon Easton
02:02:59
FAST COLOR TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tySUZIiXObc
Brandon Easton
02:03:17
A film of Black women superheroes. No one saw this.
Tiffani Richardson
02:03:43
So my mom said why don't African Americans enable our image to be negative and when are we going to see more positive roles
Jason Torres
02:05:33
Fast Color is available on Disney owned HULU.
Kenny May
02:06:14
I live in LA. The nearest theater showing Fast Color was in Oakland. I looked!
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:11:07
Brandon you just hit it straight on the head. All this is fear based
Kenny May
02:11:16
Society as a whole has been pre-programed.
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:11:28
unity
Krystian Gage
02:11:44
By cinema, their cultures, parents, schools, etc.
Kenny May
02:12:57
You thrive in spite of!
Jason Torres
02:13:28
Learned racism and behavior, versus inherited.
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:13:33
Its just like the Chadwick story when he as hired on a film and then made some suggestions to the mucky mucks about his character and he was fired
Jason Torres
02:14:25
The 1916 project
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:14:31
Right!
Jason Torres
02:15:36
Its getting hot in here
Jason Torres
02:15:58
1619
Dale Fields (they/them/their)
02:15:59
The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America - Richard Rothstein
Kenny May
02:16:06
The system is like someone being allowed into the game of Monopoly after most of the board had been purchased.
Iliana Welty
02:16:10
Thank you. Great session! Amazing speaker.
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:16:21
I am inspired
Charles Johnson
02:16:33
I appreciate you Brandon keep doing great things.
Lisa V
02:17:14
Thank you all for coming. When the transcript is ready, and you provided your email, you will be sent this recording.
key miles
02:17:33
This was amazing. Thank you.
Asia Herbison
02:17:41
thank you
Jason Torres
02:17:56
Sports team owners
Robert Roach
02:18:52
Well done, Bruh B. Excellent interactions & comments by all assembled.
Dale Fields (they/them/their)
02:19:22
Thank you for all this. This has been very helpful and I have benefitted by your expertise
Loralyn Frederick
02:20:52
I also am also inspired, learned and supportive! Thank you to all and especially grateful to Brandon! :)
Kenny May
02:20:56
The dumbing down of America.
Michael Gend (he/him/his)
02:21:04
Thank you for this very informative and engaging discussion. My students and I will continue the conversation in our Theatre Arts class.
Amy Hernandez (she. her, they)
02:21:25
Thank you so much for this
Jason Torres
02:21:28
Please vote everyone!!!
Scott Kriloff
02:22:24
Thank You Brandon and Lisa and all - wonderful seminar!!
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:22:29
THANK YOU BRANDON
Maria Bates
02:22:30
Thanks!
lauren saslow
02:22:40
Thank you!
L Alexandra Mendelson
02:22:41
Thank you Lisa!
Michelle Martinez
02:22:42
Thank you so much for all this great info.
Krystian Gage
02:22:43
Thank you
Jason Torres
02:22:47
Great great great meeting. Thank you soooooooooo much.
Kennedy Lindsey
02:22:53
Thank you!
Clay Gediman
02:22:57
This was great! thank you!